IT’S ABOUT TIME

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I grew up in Florida and down here football is king. From pee wee to high school and college the sport is huge, the only place where it may be bigger is Texas. When I was in high school I started on the varsity team for two years and played offense and defense.  All of us who played football were treated differently and the rules did not apply to us. In my senior year I skipped school 60 times simply because I knew I could. I knew the absences would be excused and they were. I wasn’t even a star I was just a starter and yet I had almost a celebrity status – all of us on the football team did.

Looking back that is the worst thing my high school could have done for me. I needed discipline and I needed to be pushed not excused. No one ever called my parents and told them I didn’t show up at school as long as I showed up Friday night for the game.

In the mid 90′s Nebraska had an undefeated team and the best running back in the country, Lawrence Phillips. He was strong and fast and was easily going to be the first overall draft pick. Well one night Lawrence got mad at his girlfriend and decided to drag her down five flights of stairs by the hair. The school was forced to get involved and suspended him for a few games but made sure he was able to play in the national championship game which they won. The man dragged his girlfriend down the stairs by her hair and basically received no punishment. The message sent to young men was clear: If you can play football your behavior will be excused even if it is something as serious as beating your girlfriend. Lawrence Phillips went on to get drafted in the first round but he never made it in the NFL because he couldn’t follow the rules and he eventually ended up in jail.

This attitude is prevalent throughout the country especially in college but I think it is changing and that is a good thing. I think some good is going to come from the Penn State travesty. I think everyone was so shocked and disgusted that it caused a lot of people to look in the mirror and realize that football is not as important as life. I think maybe the men who run these programs are beginning to realize they are not doing these kids any favors by treating them differently.

There is a new commercial with the President and many athletes who send the message “never, ever hit a woman”. Good. It’s about time good men stand up and hold bad men accountable for their actions.

Last month Chad Johnson who is a wide receiver in the NFL beat his wife and the Dolphins cut him the next day. That would not have happened two years ago. Even more important than that is his wife immediately filed for divorce.

This year LSU dismissed Tyrann Mathieu for behavior problems and violating team rules. He is one of the best players in the country and they dismissed him. There is no way that would have happened two years ago. I’m beginning to see this a lot in college and the NFL and it is about time because when young men realize they will be held accountable for their actions maybe things will begin to change.

So who do you think has a bigger mouth, Julia Roberts or Mick Jagger?

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  2. I have notice a lot of punishments happening, which is a good thing. I think these guys should be accountable for there actions.

    To answer your question, I think it would be a tough call on the bigger mouth. Couldn’t you have gone what’s your favorite candy?

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  3. OK, serious time. Excellent post. Thank you for saying: It’s about time good men stand up and hold bad men accountable for their actions.
    Besides excusing criminal behavior, it is also wrong to take a young man in college, fake his grades so he can play football for you, maybe he makes the pros, but by 30, he is washed up sports wise and has a useless degree because he never really went to class. College needs to be about life and job skills and pursuing education and a career, not national championships!

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  5. His favorite man candy is Time Tebow, Melody. ;p

    I think this is a great step in the right direction. No one should be given a free pass b/c of their background, occupation or lots of money (or sometimes lack of) when they commit a heinous act.

    Which reminds me: While I still taught school and was 5 months pregnant, a third grader (who was as tall as me and I’m almost 5’5) smacked/punched me in the stomach.

    Administrators response: He can’t help it, b/c of the background he came from. She didn’t punish him and instead told him (after he admitted to hitting me) to be more careful around me b/c I was delicate.

    I had to practically sit on my husband to keep him from going up there and raising cain.

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  6. I love HS football. I have 3 boys and they have and are still playing….. 4 more years! I understand what you mean by being treated differently but at our school… which is a small 2A public school…. the kids really can’t get away with skipping school…… but I see that they do get special treatment at times. My son was the starting QB last year and the teachers loved him, he made good grades, behaved at school but could and did get away with just about anything (not anything bad…. that I know of) But I get what you are saying…. We have been watching the Friday Night Lights on Netflix and those are some bad kids! LOL

    I am a Sports Photographer for 2 local newspapers and put my pics on FB for the kids and parents to tag in…. If you are interested I would love for you to take a look at them sometime…

    Mick Jagger has the biggest lips…. By FAR!

    Have a great day!

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    • My husband played high school football at a different school from mine. I swear every game I couldnt’ go to, he’d make the front page of the sports’ section. LOL!

      That being said, I’m not sure what he got away with, because he got in a car accident in the school zone (car pulled out in front of him) and he got detention and demerits for swearing and punching a school zone sign after he realized his truck was totalled.

      But I’m sure he had to have special privileges, b/c football players usually do.

      And speaking from experience, that sucks (more than sucks, actually) when an adult/teacher/administrator/coach does *nothing* even when they see the incident happen.

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      • I have parents tell me that the boys get so excited when the paper comes! Of coarse, the editor picks which pictures to use so I never know…. although, I do have a pretty good idea!

        I can honestly say that my boys are good boys…. In our small school, the teacher will call you on her cell phone from the class room if they need something. Then, b/c it is a small town, word of mouth usually finds its way back so most anything “bad” is found out pretty quickly on the Who-Done-It front!

        (Also, started your newest book today and after I reading Chapter 1….. I pulled out Twice Tempted to read again, before reading on in the next one….. Just needed an update before reading it! LOL)

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  8. I completely agree with you. They are doing the players any favors by turning a blind eye.

    Just a few weeks ago a broadcaster stated that Notre Dame needed to be less stringent in their requirements and let in a few players with criminal backgrounds in order to give the team more character, and better chances against other teams. That’s not exact verbage, but it is essentially what he meant. I was horrified that he would even suggest that!

    And definitely Mick Jaggar, LOL…or at least they are less attractive on him :)

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  9. 60?!
    Loved the post RM! You are right on. Bad behavior should not be tollerated no matter the level or sport!

    I am proud of my local HS football team, we have been going to games for years – since my kiddos were 4. Two years ago a sophomre, named “Coop” was at preseason practice – he hit a tackling sled wrong and was instantly paralyzed with slight movement in his hands. These young men all took turns driving the 1+ hour to his hospital bed to be with him, they were the first ones to visit when he came home, they started a fund to help with his recovery costs – dedicating the season to “Coop”, retired his number. They borrow his parents wheelchair accessible van so “Coop” can go out with the guys. Sometimes I think the coaches and adults involved can make a world of difference.

    Phew you feel a little better – you remembered the question. I would have to go with Mick – his seem more flabby than Julia’s.

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  11. In Indiana it’s basketball. In our town the players reach near god like status. The year I was a junior we made it to State. STATE!! A few of the players got caught driving drunk as well as having alcohol on school property. The prosecutor held their case off till after they won state and then the boys who weren’t starters did jail time and the starters got probation and community service which was expunged so it didn’t affect their college. The school did nothing.

    And Liv Tylers lips are the biggest of them all!

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  12. Nice blog today, RM. Hopefully, schools will continue to do this type of thing but I really doubt it. Sure, they’re doing it now because the wound from the scandal is still raw. Let’s see where we are in 3 years. I don’t know….maybe I’m completely wrong. It could happen I guess. We all loved each other on Sept. 12th, 2001, right?? Liberals and Conservative, Democrats and Republicans, Michael Moore and sane people….hell, even Bill O’Reilly and Al Sharpton rented an apartment together…..and we’re still getting along these days, right…? Right??

    Oh, and regarding the mouth, Mick Jagger has the bigger yap because he’s had David Bowie in there…. Julia has only had Lyle Lovett.

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  13. RM, excellent post, and I agree 100% with you. I also want to share something I got from the BBL that’s a really positive thing about football players. When Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendan Ayanbadejo came out in support of gay marriage, a Maryland politician wrote to the team manager to try and shut the man up. Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe wrote an absolutely eloquent response in favor of not only Ayanbadejo but free speech and gay marriage. And knowing your expertise with profanity, I think you’ll find that Kluwe is a kindred spirit. I hope you’ll read this if you haven’t already. He’s my new idol, that’s for sure!

    http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-magically-turn-you-into-a-lustful-cockmonster-chris-kluwe-explains-gay-marriage-to-the-politician-who-is-offended-by-an-nfl-player-supporting-it

    Definitely Mick Jagger.I think his are even bigger than Steven Tyler’s!

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    • That was a great post, Kate! I enjoyed reading the response because he used plain vernacular (shall we say) and it’s the first time I have EVER seen the word “fromunda” -in print! Long live Chris Kluwe!

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  14. Great post and it definitely is about time! Hopefully it will continue and more players will be held accountable for their actions.

    Oh, and I think it might be a tie between Mick and Julia! ;)
    Steven Tyler could give them a run for their money too!

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  15. Great blog RM!
    There is an ongoing investigation of one of my states university’s football teams where the players have allegedly drugged and raped female athletes and other female students. Not much was done at the begining. Everyone passed the buck and protected the players but because of a public outcry they started dealing with it. Out of several players accused, one admitted it, but called it “taking sexual advantage” not rape. I think sports can play a vital role in the development of young people if done right. But having said that, I would love just once to hear a parent brag about their kids helping an aging neighbor paint their fence instead of how they excel in sports. Don’t get me wrong, I love football (Go Seahawks) but we put these young athletes on such a high pedestal and when they grow up, they feel untouchable. and that needs to change. Thanks again for a great subject to discuss and before I forget, It’s close but I got to go with Mick

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    • “Taking sexual advantage” is quite possibly the worst phrase I have ever heard (either followed closely by or closely following “legitimate rape”). It is my hot-button issue, yes, but rape is also a human rights issue. It affects every one of us, because the raped are our sisters, daughters, aunts, mothers, wives, partners, girlfriends, grandmothers, friends, teachers, politicians, marine biologists, romance bloggers, rich, poor, homeless, and the people who fill every other role in society (including the ones who are male). If we are finally holding those in the public eye responsible for domestic violence, we might as well acknowledge that there is another issue on which we as a society are far too quiet.

      Thank you for letting me rant unimpeded. *steps neatly off her soapbox*

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  17. RM loved your comments. I think the public is finally responding to stuff like this. We are no longer willing to let these kinds of things be swept uder the rugs just because the offender is a big money maker on the team. Respect and right is more valuable that how much that kind of player can pull in for his team. We have to make the advertisers and supporters realize that.

    Jagger is, by a (s)mile.

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  18. You skipped school 60 times? That is more than once a week. Where did you go? And how could you count to 60 if you didn’t go to school?

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        • He said male/female hugging was okay – and since I think it would be a smack upside the head – probably the smack….but I think you should smack then hug!
          I will say what astounds me is how articulate he is, and well rounded for someone who missed that much of school!
          Bet his girls can’t get nothin’ past him…

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  19. Great post RomanceMan. I think the more the public is made aware of bad behavior, the more likely something will be done about it. Its when its ‘swept under the rug’ that it is allowed to continue.
    Wow, not only did I never date an athlete, they didn’t even know who I was!! I feel like I’m in exceptional company, to be accepted by you guys :)
    IMHO I just think Mick Jagger is gross. Steven Tyler too. Don’t they know when to retire??

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  20. Mick Jagger has the bigger mouth in terms of circumference BUT Julia Roberts has a bigger (louder) laugh.

    I’m glad you pointed out these changes in how our football players are ‘handled’. It’s sad that it’s gotten to the low point it has before public outcry demanded change.

    Of course you took advantage of what you could when in High School. Even then……you were The Matador in training!

    Thanks for the post.

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  21. I totally agree with you, RM, to a point.

    But I do have to speak to this, our college team did recruit someone who had problems at his other school. It’s been a kind of cultural philosophy here to give this person a second chance. And he did excel and didn’t repeat his past behavior because he was so grateful to be given a second chance.

    I would prefer that the school remove them from playing and scholarship earned but require them to undergo therapy and anger management. To me, it’s just like passing the buck by expelling them because they don’t get better without help and most schools seem unwilling to try to change their behavior for the betterment of himself/herself or society as a whole.

    But society as a whole must stop treating these athletes like gods. They are human and need to be trained and guided no matter what their talent might be, to be treated like everyone else.

    Okay off the soapbox for now, I have to say Tyler and I didn’t know Bowie was that big.

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  22. Thank you for a hard-hitting post, RM. Well said. I never could understand how football (or any of the big-money sports) controls so many minds. It’s not just the players and their handlers, it’s all those idiots in the stands who think nothing of trashing a row of parked cars outside the stadium because their team lost.

    While I regret that the current students of Penn State have such a hard legacy to wade through, it was way past time for a change. I understand there are university-level coaches who make a larger salary than the governors of their states. That’s upside down.

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  23. Bravo RM! Athletes have been held above all others for too long. I will say that at U.F. my daughter taught a class that was filled with athletes. She dislikes all sports, and was prepared to be very disappointed in the athletes. It turns out U.F. is very tough with players. When she was teaching at least. They each had to bring a progress report weekly to the A.D. and he kept in close contact with my daughter. If she had any difficulties with a student, he took action immediately. She was impressed, and they ended up enjoying her class. Again, that was a few years ago.
    I’m thinking Mick Jagger!!! :0

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  24. Great topic and post RM. My son is still young but he already loves sports, and plays several. His favorite is football, and he like any young boy talks about being a college and pro football player. This culture that idolizes sports figures above all else is so unhealthy for young athletes (proven by how many get into trouble), and parents should start doing something about it at an early age. If schools are gonna let my kid get away with stuff behind my back it just makes my job that much harder. We try to teach our kids that they are much more than just their looks, or their physical abilities, or even their intellectual ones. We want them to have a strong character, and grow into honorable and loving adults. I think a lot of kids believe their parents only love them if they play well or win the game, get an A, or win the crown in the beauty contest. Unfortunately, many parents actually act this way. Kids need to know we expect them to do their best, but we love them no matter what. Ours do know that. :)

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  25. Thank you for being yet one more voice to step up and add to the din slowly increasing in volume. To change a society requires a change in the norm, which can only happen by letting those around you see that you stand for something and why. As Chris Kluwe referenced, not so long ago the idea that a man of color would be allowed to play with the rest of the professionals in the league was preposterous. We are all a +1.

    Clearly, as evidenced by the above and further above, my mouth is much larger/louder than everyone else already listed. :)

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  26. Hey, I need backup guys. Crazygranny posted a pic on FB and there is serious gay talk going on over there. I’m not very good with words. Maybe KATE DOUGLAS could go help me!

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  27. Definately mick jagger out of the two…

    Great post, but i think it’s not just the schools (who receive more $ from the state with better athletic departments) but also the parents who are supposedly raising these kids. I don’t care if my son was the world’s greatest football player, if he ever raised a hand to anyone in a fit of rage, anger or just because he thought he could get away with it his butt would be sitting in the corner for as long as i could get away with it for. So don’t blame just the schools…my question is where the heck are the parents?!?!?

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  28. Every time someone has uttered some variation of the phrase “boys will be boys” has contributed to the widespread acceptance of less than respectable actions. Hopefully these are the beginnings of demanding higher and better from athletes in terms of their off-the-field behavior. The biggest disservice we can do to the good men is to ignore or excuse the abhorrent actions of bad men. There are good, honest, kind men in this world and when we don’t punish the bad men, we devalue those who have distinguished themselves as respectful human beings.

    I’m all out of big words and deep thoughts. Mick Jagger.

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  29. Don’t get me started about. You know where I am in the state.

    At my former job, the owners would have us come in during a hurricane, as “it’s not going to do anything” and someone may need their HVAC repaired.

    Football kickoff luncheon? They’d shut the place down for it so that all could attend.

    WTH?

    I love my football…but as a sport-not a life.

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  30. No Football stories of course, at least not the American one :) , but Amen to all you said. Its sad to me though that you would need an ad to teach young men not to hit women. Seems to me that some parents made a shitty job of it.

    Mick Jagger or Steve Tyler ugh – fame and money do strange things to women’s eyesights.

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  31. Great post and all the thought provoking comments as well. I agree, it’s about time the good guys stood up for the bad guys (love that sentiment).

    High profile athletes, actors, musicians, etc, need to get the message loud and clear, that yes, their personal lives will have an impact on their professional lives. Too bad if they feel their privacy is invaded. They signed up for the million dollar deals, and with that comes living in a fish bowl, depending on how famous they become. With that comes the obligation to be a role model not an ass-model (even though I still think the best role models are children’s parents/family). However, for some, these guys are role models and going around and being evil-holes, and not paying consequences sends a horrible message.

    I never watch award shows, but I happen to catch part of the Grammy’s (at least I think it was the Grammy’s) and Chris Brown received a standing ovation from everyone in the music industry. That disgusted me to no end. The little bastard beat the living shit out of his girlfriend, Ryanna, and not only does he win a Grammy, but a standing ovation? Yes, he was tried and I think was on probation or something, but his fan base increased (so I read) and his colleagues applauded him. Nice.

    I don’t even listen to his music or Ryanna’s music, and I don’t know much about her, but, I do remember seeing pictures of her bruises. This little shit should have lost his music contracts. I’m only singling him out as an example, I’m sure there are plenty of others.

    As for Mick Jagger, I agree with Luci. Fame and money makes some women and from the sounds of it, David Bowie blind.

    I love hockey, but as Bobbi said above, as a sport to enjoy not as a life.

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  32. Okay Romance Man, this is the second time you referred to Julia Roberts’ full lips in a disparaging manner. I let it slide the first time, but not this time. As a woman who was lucky enough to be blessed with full lips I take offense to this. My full lips are one of my favorite features and many men would agree with me. Surveys performed by sexual psychologists have found that universally, men find a woman’s full lips to be more sexually attractive than lips that are less so. Many of the world’s most beautiful women have full lips. Exhibits A-D: Jessica Alba, Angelina Jolie, Sophia Vergara and yes, Liv Tyler, who by the way I have been told by many I look like. So you can take your skinny-little-lip-loving self and kiss my a$$! :)

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    • I agree with you Scarlet. I think full lips are a feature that most men desire on a woman. I know my smile was the first thing that attracted Scott to me when we first. I think that you are beautiful and I can totally see the Liv Tyler comparison :)

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      • So what you’re saying now is that you don’t like wide smiles? Dude, either way, you’re digging a hole. You’re married with three daughters, the majority of people who post here are women, you’d think you would know that this kind of thing may get you in hot water? LOL It’s okay, you’re staying true to your gender, sometimes you just can’t win. (According to my husband who says that quite a bit) LOL

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  33. this morning i read about some 18 yo guy from no. dakota – he got kicked off the fb team – he was on the injured list and wasn’t playing so he was videotaping the game in the press box. well, during a slow part he kissed his boyfriend and i guess someones saw him and reported it to the coach. who didn’t kick him off the team but reprimanded him for being a distraction. well, it turns out he hadn’t come out to his family yet but ended getting kicked off the team after a lotta bruhaha – and people finding out his boyfriend was 65! which to me felt more like pedophilia cause i was wondering how long that was going on. anyway he withdrew from the school and is sueing. and i think angelina jolie has the sexiest big lips around these days

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      • oh yeah, in other news (yesteday’s wash post Dvorak column) 5 hs fb players hired 3 prostitutes while on a road trip to North Carolina. and of course it was a catholic h.s. and, even though they had 18 chaperones even did bedchecks at 130am and 430am – and the twist on the whole story is they ordered the ladies via their ‘smart’phones’ like ordering pizza. and waited to order at 5am. i think they need to stop showing Varsity Blues reruns on fx..

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  34. Great post and comments from everyone.
    LG. Ken is the biggest hypocrite around. He has changed since school. I was going to block him but then I feel I would be just as bad as him. Everyone has thier own opinions even if we don’t agree with them. He has taken his faith and morphed it into absolutes. I feel sorry for him because most of his posts spew hate towards all the things he disagrees with.

    Ok. Some good news…
    My nephew who is a soph in HS, made the VRsity FB team as a starter. He plays left tackle.he has been eating and breathing FB the last few years and I’m so proud all his hard work has paid off.. After the first game they moved him to nose tackle. Also, Ahman Green is their running backs coach. It was so cool to see him on the sidelines.

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    • Crazygranny! I was stunned at first that ‘a friend’ would post that on your status. But as I thought about it, I realized that we all have ‘friends’ on FB that are not true friends, nor that we can discuss openly with. Having said that, I am so proud of myself that I was able to articulate my opposing beliefs. It has only been recently that I can find the (good)words to respond to someone that I think is just wrong! And I never saw him respond to LadyBug’s so pointed biblical reply! Hooray LadyBug! I don’t have that much knowledge. Thanks lady!
      Keep posting!
      Especially those hot men.

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    • Damn Granny I just read that thread. I wish I could comment. I don’t understand why i can’t comment just because I have a fan page. Anyway I couldn’t have added much you guys handled him fine. I agree with granny for not blocking him. Sometimes letting someone speak makes your point easier to make.

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    • Selena– I’ve been going to Sunday School since I was a zygote. I was bound to learn something along the way ;)

      Granny– I think you handled it beautifully. I think sometimes it’s a great idea to give people enough rope to hang themselves. I don’t normally get involved in arguments on FB because it can get really convoluted. For some reason, that one got to me. I hope I didn’t overstep any.

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      • Yes, Granny, you handled it extremely well and all the comments, with the exception of a few, I agreed with.

        Ladybug I went to Catholic school, not quite the same as Sunday school, but I do remember one thing that I was taught at home and at Church. Love is a verb and so is being a true Christian, which has nothing to do with stoning people.

        I just don’t remember anything to do with Math or Science. LOL

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      • I didn’t know you were a zygote. can no longer talk with you. I except all people except zygotes, they are weird. I am a zygotaphobe.

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        • You are just pissy about the cheese. I don’t read your comments. How am I supposed to know you already said that? OR Do you like this better? Your comment was so awesome that I just wanted to be like you. I’m so glad no one can see me laughing my ass off while typing that :) .

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        • Is this the wrong time to tell you that you were once a zygote? Even your kids were. It’ll be okay. Acceptance is the first step (or the 3rd– I can never remember).

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          • I was never a zygote. I asked my dad and he said I never was. I went straight from fertilization to birth.

          • Well, Freak Show, perhaps you should contact a university so you can be studied (with probes and such :) ). My mom told me that the stork brought me. I guess we can put just as much stock in that as what your dad told you.

          • Can you say for sure a stork did not bring you. Didn’t you watch the video I just sent you

          • Let’s take this down to the bottom of the blog page. This tiny boxes annoy me. Meet me there in 5 minutes.

  35. Over here, the AFL (Australian Football League) is very strict – we don’t have college football like you do – rookies are recruited from local amateur teams and there is no skipping school in high school or college or anything. But, once you get drafted by a team, they’re very strict about players attending training, not drinking (too much and on certain days at all), making sure the game and their club’s reputation is not damaged by their conduct. Players get cut for not attending a recovery session after a game, and kicked off the team for more serious conduct. There are still some incidents, but a lot less than there used to be. It’s a good thing.

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  37. Brilliant topic. This hits close to home right now. I just read an article from my hometown of Steubenville, Ohio. A seriously small, small town. The football team is pretty great and gets lots of attention. 3 weeks ago 3 of the starting high school football players drugged a girl and proceeded to share her the rest of the night. To make matters worse they videoed it and tweeted about it throughout the night. Currently, it’s being investigated. Are you kidding me? There is video proof, as well as verbal confession put out there for the world to see and read. Until the investigation is complete the boys are still playing football.

    The thing that gets me is you would be shocked how many townspeople are jumping to their defense. They are saying they are just young boys and there are 2 sides to every story, etc. I get that, but I say suspend them until the investigation is over.

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  38. I did watch the video (and it was awesome), but that was a seagull not a stork. I guess if a seagull can steal a video camera then a stork can carry a baby. But where do the storks get the babies? Cabbage patch? And why do mommies’ bellies get big before the stork delivers a baby to their doorstep? And do the storks just drop them at the front door? Do they ding, dong, dash? Or do they hope that someone just happens to open the door and see a helpless baby laying on the welcome mat? I guess they could presume that the baby crying will alert the new parents to its arrival. I just have a lot of questions about this whole stork thing. Did a stork deliver you to your parents (could explain a whole lot if the stork was a little clumsy and droppy)? I wonder why none of my biology professors ever told me about this. I kind of feel like I wasted all of that money in college. What else didn’t they tell me?

    I’m really looking forward to you enlightening me with answers to all of these questions. I just feel so confused right now…..

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    • Very simple LB. A woman’s belly gets big because when she realizes the stork is coming she gets nervous and starts eating. And everyone knows the stork goes down the chimney. If you don’t have a chimney the story rings the door bell and runs. Geez, you should ask for your money back.

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      • Thank you so much! I feel a little disillusioned, but still glad to know the real facts of life. So if the stork is the bird, where do the bees come in?

        The Matrix finally makes sense to me!

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  39. Ladybug…I envy your ability to be so eloquent!!!! Wow! I also just read all the posts on Granny’s site. You ladies were amazing! :) . I feel sorry for people who have so much hatred in their heart, but I really felt the love from our BBL!
    Cracked up LB with your stork info….. Cabbage Patch sounds better!

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    • Pat– it was late and I was pissy. I had just had about half of a Diet Coke. You know how it is when we start drinking that stuff ;) .

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  40. I had to go back a look at crazygranny’s wall. I love you LB – you had an eloquent response using the exact evidence he used.

    The more I read M/M, the less I understand this fight against same sex marriage.

    I have a question – if (or when) same sex marriage is more and more acceptable, who or what group is going to be next to be judged? People who wear purple socks? The mating rituals of the mori-mori duck? (Thank you Chris Kluwe).

    Christ, after thousands of years of wars, disease, hunger and violence, haven’t we learned how to get past all that yet?

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  41. Ok, really, really late to the party. So, if you Google homosexual behavior in animals, you get a long list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
    Now, If I remember my 12 years of Catholic education, free will plays a role in sin. You have to know it’s a sin and freely do it anyway. Also, Jesus talked about the little birds in the fields not worrying about things because God has provided for their every need. So, one can assume, in a religious sense, that since God has provided everything for his animal friends, he didn’t need to give them free will, and therefore they cannot sin. So why would God let them be “gay”?
    Here’s the thing. You can’t have it both ways. If you need to believe that God is sitting on a cloud in Heaven, directing our every move, and setting bushes alight to give us Scripture, then you have to explain why he would allow animals to exhibit same sex behavior. If those are the rules, then those are the rules. (And I use he, but we all know God is a woman!)
    I truly am not trying to disparage anyone’s religious beliefs. It’s just that I have read the Bible and for every quote someone pulls out to justify their way of thinking, I can find another to counter it. Religion should inspire and elevate and draw us closer together. One thing I know and am willing to bet my soul and salvation on is that God does not want us to hate or condemn or kill people in his name. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Hey, let’s have cake!

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    • Whew..I was a little worried about you LB for a minute…Germans attacked Pearl Harbor?? But then I remembered the edit button. :roll:
      Cake……it’s been sooo long….sigh! :(

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  44. I grew up in a little bubble world, where sports didn’t matter. At. All. My parents didn’t watch them, I never went to a football or baseball game, and when I got to high school, I was mystified that people wanted to go to the Friday night football games. (Homecoming? What’s that?)

    That being said, I played tennis (enjoyed it, too!) and we won State my senior year, but I did it for fun and always put my schoolwork first. Same with the other girls on my team.

    As I got older, I found I enjoyed watching baseball, but I definitely don’t idolize the players and simply expect them to behave well. I’m beginning to realize that I’m just not the norm…at least in this country anyway.

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  45. Damn!!! I stick my nose in a book (Gabriel’s Inferno) for one day and look what I missed!!!!
    I am glad too that crazygranny didn’t delete the “other point of view”, because it gives me a chance to think and decide where I stand and most importantly WHY.
    And I love Diane’s monologue on the Bible and how for every scripture quoted to prove a point, there is another to shoot it down. That is why it is so important to actually read the Bible with an open mind; not have it fed to you by others who have an agenda.
    So, I’m ready for that cake. I will vote for the Chocolate Raspberry cake. Although I don’t know why no one suggested coconut cake.

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  46. Lady Bug, I thought of you tonight. The opposing team at the homecoming game tonight was wearing a lot of that horrible yellow color. They were white and yellow with red accent. It was like we were playing Ronald McDonald.

    Ronald kicked our ass!

    I am happy to report that neither our school and our town, give special treatment to the football team. Or any sport for that matter. The school has a zero tolerance policy for bullying, drugs and alcohol and they enforce it.

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    • LOL, Steffanie! Just imagining those uniforms makes my eyeballs hurt. Evidently, they were trying to play well enough to make everyone forget that they were wearing those horrible uniforms. That kind inspiration is difficult to beat. I’m sorry Ronald got the best of your team.

      My high school colors were red and white and college colors were blue and white– very simple and not painful to look at. Of course, our college mascot was/is a blue horse. Hmmmm….. how did I only just now realize how weird that is?

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      • LB, did you know there is actually a horse color called Blue Roan? Also, probably the color Grullo could pass for blue, it is actually a gunmetal gray. With dogs, that color is called ‘blue’ but still looks gray :)

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        • LG– thanks for trying to think the best of that mascot, but it was/is a very bright blue horse :) . They are the UAH Chargers. Some poor soul wears a blue horse costume athletic events. Imagine putting that on a resume….

          I didn’t know that about the Blue Roan, but did know about “blue” dogs. We had a blue heeler when I was growing up. Ugly was the best dog EVER.

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        • LB, did you ever see a picture of the mustang sculpture that is in Denver, outdoors, greeting everyone on their way to the airport with flashing, glowing red eyes? That sculpture of the horse, bright blue, larger than life, in a rearing pose, and it actually killed the sculptor while he was assembling it-not joking. A leg fell off and hit the man in the head and killed him. Everytime I see it now I will think of your mascot! I’m sure a pic would come up if you googled it! Its wicked :)

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